tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post7355557618945364869..comments2024-02-25T19:34:27.767-06:00Comments on Grateful Dead Listening Guide: 1990 September 19 - Madison Square Gardenicepetalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09600688771458155367noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-76131685748684339612013-09-01T16:09:55.547-05:002013-09-01T16:09:55.547-05:00I have to say, I love this show for the setlist, t...I have to say, I love this show for the setlist, the singing and the playing, but I saw my last show about four years before this. If this recording represents a realistic representation of how the band sounded by 1990, I think it's pretty appalling. The sound is horribly bright, and Phil is really recessed. I'm listening through a couple of different headphone setups, one of which I consider to be very correct tonally, and a speaker setup that's near perfect. There are other shows I've listed to and downloaded, including several that I attended, that sound quite like I remember them sounding live, and while that might not be a perfect memory, I think it's probably pretty good. I'd be curious to know what people who attended this show think of the recording.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-39439874137809625212012-09-19T12:59:34.369-05:002012-09-19T12:59:34.369-05:00All Dead shows are good 1st show 1968 last show w ...All Dead shows are good 1st show 1968 last show w / Garcia early 90s further 2011 saw lots of shows 70 s which im partial too.i would have liked to have seen the band in ny some of the tapes are incrediable.but never got to.Hunter College "rings a bell "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-17124161564493949762011-09-19T11:09:23.641-05:002011-09-19T11:09:23.641-05:00The Scarlett > Fire from the next night is Expl...The Scarlett > Fire from the next night is Explosive!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01884740274014928169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-1338651937533041152010-04-07T09:28:26.044-05:002010-04-07T09:28:26.044-05:00Not that these tapes needed any help, but there wa...Not that these tapes needed any help, but there was an usher there that Tom was feeding cassettes of the previous night at each show. In return, not only did Tom get cart blanche as far as flying his mics (dead center was an aisle), but the usher (Barry) actually shut up an unruly fan during the Let It Grow. Told the guy he'd kick him out if he didn't be quiet! Amazing taping story...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-43578369395090364042009-08-14T13:17:11.076-05:002009-08-14T13:17:11.076-05:00Great to see this one discussed. I attended this ...Great to see this one discussed. I attended this show and it is one of the few I have not forgotten. What a night. I remember walking out thinking about the second set let it grow, and how sublime it was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-74296781301571904592009-08-12T22:34:32.357-05:002009-08-12T22:34:32.357-05:00nice review. the only thing it's missing is a...nice review. the only thing it's missing is a review of 9-20-90. to my ears, 9-20 was like 3rd and 4th sets of the same 9-19 show, just the edgier side. after having seen 5 nights of brilliant music, i was exhausted by 9-20. however, that first set had me boogeying like no other that run for some reason. the u.s. blues closer seemed like a nod to the eventual europe departure.<br /><br />the second set opener truckin->china->rider is of the highest order. it is reminiscent of an earlier era in that one wouldn't predict the song pairings or such a smooth segue. while the women are smarter is not like my favored early 80s versions, this one is still punchy and full of finger-snap.<br /><br />the energetic drumz leads to a dark space, very cryptic. early on, one can hear hints of dark star, and what a dark star it was! emerging from space, this dark star has a fully realized intro jam before devolving into deep space again (not unlike the space dip after standing on the previous sunday). the playin' reprise seals the continuation of wednesday's two part yet incomplete playin'. clearly, all were enjoying the festivities on stage.<br /><br />after the playin' reprise, jerry, bob and phil embark on one of the scarier spaces of the modern era. without direct reference, it harkens back to the 74 teradactyl melt-down era, something rarely experienced post-74. they go for it, here, scaring the daylights out of the daytrippers almost unparalleled in the latter era, saving for the warlocks or miami '89.<br /><br />the closing is energetic as well, throwing stones->touch of grey, and a lovelight encore that says, "we really don't want to quit." in my mind, the 9-19 isn't complete without the 9-20. there are plenty of nice recordings available as well, fob, matrix, miller sbd, etc. <br /><br />funny thing, too, was that i was fully cognizant of this being the 20th anniversary of two of my most favorite new york shows ever: 9-19 and 9-20-70! tasty all around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-55144306341536704512009-04-01T21:31:00.000-05:002009-04-01T21:31:00.000-05:00amazing first setamazing first setAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-51845111062688287622008-12-17T06:46:00.000-06:002008-12-17T06:46:00.000-06:00Patrick, you hit the nail right on the head -- I a...Patrick, you hit the nail right on the head -- I also feel that on a lot of 90's sbds, the band sounds pretty loose and disconnected from each other. But these auds really do fill in the gaps! Shows like this really have become a completely new listening experiences for me, and I'm able to let myself go and enjoy like I would anything from the 70's. Well put, sir!Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11628132999021385676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-66353847947244614422008-12-15T21:40:00.000-06:002008-12-15T21:40:00.000-06:00Though I do tend to feel that overall the Dead nev...Though I do tend to feel that overall the Dead never fully recovered from losing Brent (they sure as hell never really spooked me again at a show after that) I agree that this MSG run is chock full of Those Moments that keep us coming back and back and back well over a decade after Jerry passed away.<BR/><BR/>I have to say, this AUD recording knocks the circulating SBD off its horse, over a cliff, and into a vast cactus patch. On the SBD of this show, the first set always sounded a little loose and sloppy to me... the AUD mix fills so many gaps and is just so punchy and crackling that the sloppy bits tend to fade into the background. I'm rediscovering this show song by song right now as I type this.<BR/><BR/>(I also dig the little bitch-fest between the tapers and one of their neighbors before Help On The Way. God love the FOB tapers for getting recordings like this, but they could be a real bite in the ass to get stuck next to at a show. LOL!)<BR/><BR/>I didn't realize until I saw the previous posts that RT 2.1 was out and that it's from this run of shows. Certainly a worthy run, and if there are people out there who haven't heard these yet then they're gonna be in for a real treat. <BR/><BR/>BUT... I seriously doubt they'll sound as good as this recording does!Patrick Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690842509026070505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-2708503876750884492008-12-07T04:14:00.000-06:002008-12-07T04:14:00.000-06:00Sven,now that you open it, I cannot refrain to exp...Sven,<BR/><BR/>now that you open it, I cannot refrain to express my lack of understanding on the rationale behind these official releases. They are not complete shows (what deadheads want), but this is not the point. In the same disk they create a 'frankestain' by inserting one song from a previous night, instead of keeping the original flow.<BR/><BR/>Can anybody see the logic of this? My only guess is that their vaults are not so complete...<BR/><BR/>Italian HeadMaurohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14509516349381489783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-48412833286975114882008-12-05T13:07:00.000-06:002008-12-05T13:07:00.000-06:00Coincidence?<A HREF="http://dead.net/road-trips/road-trips-volume-2-number-1" REL="nofollow">Coincidence?</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-59099903021861089412008-12-04T18:15:00.000-06:002008-12-04T18:15:00.000-06:00absolutely!! I couldn't wait to get through the wh...absolutely!! I couldn't wait to get through the whole article before commenting here, because the premise is spot on! Those msg shows were magical, each night with a different trio (or so) jamming on stage before drums, and the incredibly touching He's Gone (first since Brent's death) - still gives me shivers to recall that jam. It felt like the Dead were really introspective then, searching for their new collective soul without Brent. <BR/>I would also suggest summer '92 as a bit of a peak - every night of the second half of tour had a significant kick down (Midnight hour, satisfaction, SCHOOLGIRL, CASEY JONES, etc.), plus an interesting tour-long Dark Star that spanned 3 shows (Richfield, Charlotte and Deer Creek - I believe), and finally the gem of a venue (that was wasted on gatecrashing) that was Starlake Ampitheatre. What a summer that was!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00460352959226985878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-90794693373620089642008-12-02T12:13:00.000-06:002008-12-02T12:13:00.000-06:00You guys are right; great show.Thanks!You guys are right; great show.<BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-9215264255262625502008-12-01T13:26:00.000-06:002008-12-01T13:26:00.000-06:00while I personally think that Jerry/Bruce jam from...while I personally think that Jerry/Bruce jam from 9/18 is one of the most beautiful things this band ever created (any era), there's no arguing that this one is The Show. Darian's recordings are fantastic!<BR/><BR/>as a side note, if there's anyone who continues to dump on Vince's contributions to the band (not saying I'm not a little guilty myself at times) and needs a little more convincing, also check out 9/8/90, before Hornsby joined up. I've always been impressed at how much he adds to these versions of Eyes and Terrapin and really sets a new tone for a new band.<BR/><BR/>excellent writeup as usual, noah!Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11628132999021385676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-84580880485429359602008-11-30T04:41:00.000-06:002008-11-30T04:41:00.000-06:00May thanks for these late shows. Any recommedation...May thanks for these late shows. Any recommedations for a run/show in the last year, 1995?<BR/>Peace from the Italian HeadMaurohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14509516349381489783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-42570109047726004312008-11-28T16:26:00.000-06:002008-11-28T16:26:00.000-06:00Amen! Whenever people ask me for later-period sh...Amen! Whenever people ask me for later-period shows, I point them to this run, especially 9/19 and 9/20. <BR/><BR/>And agreed, the AUD recordings sound wonderful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-387936856129721233.post-36621925204081080202008-11-28T10:39:00.000-06:002008-11-28T10:39:00.000-06:00Oh I must agree! The 89-early 91 period saw the De...Oh I must agree! The 89-early 91 period saw the Dead back in full form and this show (along with the next night) are two of the brightest stars from this wonderful period. Still, they really had the tiger by the tail during this run. This show and recording are so over the top perfect, I cannot help but smile. Played at full volume, I dare you not to completely go insane with joy overflowing as Let It Grow bubbles up out of nowhere. <BR/><BR/>A wonderful selection! Hearing the audience respond to every rush and push.... god..... i wish we could all go back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com